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How DO you make those Animal Costumes? (Fursuits)
Calling "KoiFox" 
3rd-May-2008 02:01 pm
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If anyone knows a "Koi Fox" aka Lynne Hassell, or if KoiFox is here in this community....

Please tell her that they have a customer who commissioned them for a wolf suit where they paid a 1200-1300$ deposit back before January who is looking for them.

The mother of the guy who commissioned KoiFox called me this morning thinking I'd know this person and is desperately trying to find KoiFox to demand refund or to get the suit finished or something.  She said she found my number on a business card her son picked up at AnthroCon last year which is where he commissioned KoiFox.

I don't really appreciate getting calls from other fursuiters' customers who are desperately trying to find contact information like a phone number or mailing address...  I'm tired of cleaning up other people's messes.

edit:  phone numbers and addresses have been found and relayed to the mother and the son.   They will continue to pursue the matter.
Thank you all for the help and info gathering. There is no more need for posts.
3rd-May-2008 06:18 pm (UTC)
Well... the first result google gives me is this... Looks like this could be the one, right?

3rd-May-2008 06:23 pm (UTC)
... which leads me to her =)

4th-May-2008 04:26 am (UTC)
Are you a winged ass? Also is that a fursuit in the other post of the same?
4th-May-2008 04:33 am (UTC)
Yes I am =), and yes I do have a suit, though it still doesn't have wings =).
4th-May-2008 04:57 am (UTC)
I love meeting other asses. There are not many of us. Do you use YIM?
4th-May-2008 05:03 am (UTC)
nope, only ICQ, AIM and the LJ-Jabber... but we're getting a little off-topic here ô.o ;)

4th-May-2008 05:19 am (UTC)
If you would like to talk further with me. donkeyears@gmail.com
4th-May-2008 07:46 am (UTC)
Yay for donkey suits! I'm a unimule :D
4th-May-2008 05:32 pm (UTC)
There are alot of asses in the furry fandom.. *Trombone sound effect* O :3
4th-May-2008 05:52 pm (UTC)
3rd-May-2008 07:03 pm (UTC)
That's good... she has a site

Too bad there is no phone number or mailing address on that site to give to the mother who called me.
3rd-May-2008 07:13 pm (UTC)
Just did a whois on her domain, unfortunately the only result is:

Request: lynnehassell.com
whois server for *.com is whois.crsnic.net ...
connected to whois.crsnic.net [] ...
connected to whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com [] ...
Registration Service Provided By: VIZAWEB INC
Contact: +1.6512043910
Website: http://www.vizaweb.com


VizaWeb Domains
Bulk Registration (domains@vizaweb.com)
PO Box 97
Cottage Grove
Tel. +1.6512043910
Fax. +1.6512043914

Creation Date: 26-Sep-2004
Expiration Date: 26-Sep-2008

Domain servers in listed order:

Administrative Contact:
VizaWeb Domains
Bulk Registration (domains@vizaweb.com)
PO Box 97
Cottage Grove
Tel. +1.6512043910
Fax. +1.6512043914

Technical Contact:
VizaWeb Domains
Bulk Registration (domains@vizaweb.com)
PO Box 97
Cottage Grove
Tel. +1.6512043910
Fax. +1.6512043914

Billing Contact:
VizaWeb Domains
Bulk Registration (domains@vizaweb.com)
PO Box 97
Cottage Grove
Tel. +1.6512043910
Fax. +1.6512043914


Well... perhaps the hosting company could give that mother a number if everything else fails...?

3rd-May-2008 07:05 pm (UTC)
lynnehassell@yahoo.com is the only e-mail I know her on. Maybe ask WhippetLuv ((I think thats who)) didn't they used to collab together with suits?
3rd-May-2008 10:36 pm (UTC)
Aren't you confusing with KoiSnake?
3rd-May-2008 10:58 pm (UTC)
"Koisnake" and "KoiFox" are two different people.

Koisnake: http://koisnake.deviantart.com/

Also makes fursuit stuffs. She is making me some handpawsies right now.
4th-May-2008 02:24 pm (UTC)
Yes, yes, I know they are two different people, that's why I asked whether you were not confusing. I was under the impression it was KoiSnake who had worked with WhippetLuv. Seems like I was the confused one. LOL
3rd-May-2008 07:29 pm (UTC)
Just as an observation.. January was 5 months ago. The fursuits I've ordered have wait times up to 1 year. Depending on when this suit is due... this could either be considered an issue with the fursuit maker - or a really worthless customer that doesnt think to get contact info to someone they paid $1200!

Considering it was this guys mom.. I'm thinking this might fit into the later.
3rd-May-2008 07:35 pm (UTC)
i don't really think calling someone 'worthless' after they've paid $1200 is terribly wise. or, you know, accurate.
3rd-May-2008 07:45 pm (UTC)
if they didn't get any contact info or some kind of phone number (assuming the seller isn't trying to run away from responsibility) then they aren't necessarily the most cynical customer. worthless may be a little harsh...
However price is irrelevant, whether they paid $50 or a thousand, a loss is a loss. I suspect the artist is probably still working on the suit after only 5 months, or maybe it hasn't even come up in the waiting list...
3rd-May-2008 07:47 pm (UTC)
yeah, i'm not denying that. knowing the schedules most fursuit makers have over the next few years, five months is a short span of time.
4th-May-2008 09:09 pm (UTC)
yeah, since the OP isn't even the commissioner, this is a weird thread. But i hope if someone is looking for tips on how to commission someone they start with getting reliable contact info and figuring out a realistic wait time!

3rd-May-2008 08:02 pm (UTC)
Sounds like the mother is just a bit concerned on where the money went and what her son is buying with that money. She's probably wondering how long it'll take to finish the suit and probably wants to see/hear about some progress report about it so that it doesn't look like the money was wasted.

Nothing ruins a business faster than bad customer relations. :P If a fursuit maker doesn't have appropriate and updated contact info. on their website, then they've just lost that customer.

I think the mother and/or the son could benefit from this tutorial I made:
Pay attention to #'s 12a,b, and c, and also #'s 14, 15, and 16.
3rd-May-2008 08:04 pm (UTC)
After spending time on the phone with her, the suit was commissioned sometime after AnthroCon last year and it was for 1300$, she then contacted him in January demanding more money.

Since then it's been silence between them.

The kid's money came from his inheritance from his dead aunt.

I gave the mother the phone number and address someone found on the fursuit mailing list. Hopefully she can resolve this. The mother called and got an answering machine and the names in the recording were accurate.

We've done all we can to help with woman and her son. Thanks for the info guys.
3rd-May-2008 08:20 pm (UTC)
Another fur found that she owes the state of Virginia fees from 2007 for her business...

This mother and her son are probably out of luck...
3rd-May-2008 08:21 pm (UTC)
Yeah maybe ask Whippetluv, I know the two of them work together a lot. But I haven't seen suitstuff from either of them or seen/heard anything posted by Lynne in a long time.
3rd-May-2008 09:59 pm (UTC)
I have cut off all business with her for disagreements in business practices. I don't actually have her phonenumber but i do have her address if she is still there anyway. email me and I will pass it on.
cornflakegirlpony @ hotmail dot com
3rd-May-2008 10:21 pm (UTC) - Past customer story
Hey all this is Shad. Not that my name has significance. The suit you see in the corner was done by Lynne hassell. Heres the kinda business person she is.

I commissioned her last year in january/February. She agreed I sent 400 to start. She worked on the suit and I expressed what I liked or didnt like. She offered to throw bonuss into the suit, I said sure! She said no charge, well june rolls around and she suddenly says 'your too picky, I sold your suit off to someone else who was willing to pay more money because I feel I was getting ripped off on the suit'

It was probably the business cards she handed to me. Anyway the story goes on that at the last minute she was desperate and said "Ok hey look I made a new suit for you, its very cute, Ill have it by AC"

The suit fell apart after the first con! Ive been having a better suitmaker [Jacek] Work on the suit repairs.

3rd-May-2008 10:30 pm (UTC) - Re: Past customer story
I wouldn't necessarily say I am a better suit maker by any means. But I've changed a lot in how I make them. Anyways, I too got a suit from her a long while ago ((which has since been sold, unfortunately)) But she took a lot time between e-mails talking to me. So..lets hope she comes around and either sees this, or gets ahold of them. But yeah, the way she makes (made? maybe she has changed)) suits were a bit...rushed? Oh well, people make mistakes.
3rd-May-2008 11:53 pm (UTC) - Re: Past customer story
Wow. Just..wow. I can understand making a suit and making mistakes, but auctioning off the one you commissioned? How terribly rude. Glad I know about this person now.
4th-May-2008 03:58 am (UTC) - Re: Past customer story
Yeah, I remember you telling me about that at FCN. ):

The thing is, people should keep their customers updated too. I myself because of college get delayed by a week or so on commissions and I give the customers wip shots to assure what they purchased is getting made. She should have done so with this case, and yours. People like her make me sick. X_X Someone should really give her a good chew out about what she's doing. It's just not right at ALL.

And about the falling apart... ugh that makes me angry too. It's a good idea for suit makers to actually wear their own product if they can (if it's not too small on them)to see if it will rip or the seams will come undone easily after a while.

I'm glad I know about this person now, too. They will be on my "avoid like the plague" list. D:<

4th-May-2008 01:38 am (UTC)
This is horrible. I hate to say it but if this suit maker doesn't show up and make up soon, I have a feeling the ma will get the powers that be involved.
4th-May-2008 06:36 am (UTC) - Take it somewhere else, please
Hate to spoil all of your fun, but -none- of this belongs on this group: posts should relate to fursuit construction-- not business practices or vendettas or character assassination/rumour (which this is, since all of this is just hearsay without both actual parties getting involved). Find a better place for it, like "artists_beware".
4th-May-2008 07:07 am (UTC) - Re: Take it somewhere else, please

This was a thread constructed by someone and people are replying. I DEALT WITH LYNNE HASSELL MYSELF. Someone is having problems contacting someone WHO CONSTRUCTED A FURSUIT by Lynne Hassell. Hmmm thats what this is about...so yeah...

Its a mere warning to the one that was wondering about the suit maker. They are unaware whats going on with the X number of dollars, and people are saying their stories how this person is bad in ethics and maybe needs to do something about her, or how her ethics are bad and after getting the money back they need to find someone else. So BUGGER OFF. OIY...

4th-May-2008 07:38 am (UTC) - Re: Take it somewhere else, please
Kovu: I really do feel for you and what happened, it's an annoyance and real crappy to deal with people who take advantage of others...

But Lance is right about not turning this into an "awareness" thread. It shouldn't be about business practices, or a slamfest against KoiFox.
I asked for contact information, I got the information.
You should post your encounter to artists beware, and maybe simply link to it here.

Lance: this thread didn't belong in artists beware, as I have zero involvement in this whole mess, I have never dealt with KoiFox, or even heard of her before today, and I have never met the customers nor spoken to them before today.
I'm a messenger.
I'm trying to relay a message and gather information for a couple of people in need of help. (yeah, I'm Canadian, I help people)

Everyone else: Stop posting, the phone numbers and mailing addresses were found and relayed to the customers. It's in their hands now. I appreciate all the help and input and we'll just have to hope that the mother and her son resolve it.
4th-May-2008 07:48 am (UTC) - Re: Take it somewhere else, please
Thanks, SJ-- I appreciate it. I do sympathize with your situation (rock and a hard place) and understand your frustration. I guess it's a good sign that this community has gotten so large that it's considered by so many as a place of last resort (so many people here to help/look to for info). Take care!
4th-May-2008 05:36 pm (UTC) - Re: Take it somewhere else, please
Just my $.02- generally artists_beware is the only place for this kind of thing, and most people on there don't actually bring about any kind of resolution- its more of a "Dont commission X" kinda place. I think that SJ was right in bringing this here, as we have more knowledge of the circle of fursuit makers than other communities would. Now that he HAS a solution, though, I agree it should be deleted because it is off-topic :3 However, if a resolution is not found soon, then I suggest posting on artists_beware to ward other people off from commissioning her. ^.^ But don't post there expecting a solution, I think you might only get one 30% of the time? And thats usually when the artist themself subscribes to that community.
27th-Jun-2008 12:28 am (UTC) - Recent activity
Found http://www.lynnehassell.com/ updated, through http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/item.pl?item=232345634 and http://www.furbid.ws/cgi-bin/auction/item.pl?item=232345635 , through the username "Threadbear", which I've not seen on Furbid before (and I've been on it for years).

The new member icon shows that the username was generated 30 days or less ago.

Thought this might be of some use to someone, even though Jay's post mentioned there was no more need for posts. Sorry if I'm spamming!
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