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How DO you make those Animal Costumes? (Fursuits)
House cat Vs. Wild cat face structure 
22nd-Apr-2009 12:35 pm
Bunny Face
How different is the facial build of a normal house cate vs. a wild cate like a mountian lion when done in a fursut? I really want to do a house cat but all my refrences are lions.

I got ahold of some nice fur that i'd like to try and make a cat out of but i'm not very certian on the structure. This will be my first attempt at taxidermy eyes and a semi realistic look.
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22nd-Apr-2009 04:51 pm (UTC)
You'd do very well to look at photographs of each to get an idea.

I stylize my work to be fairly toony, so I'm sure there are details I'm missing! To me, though, the biggest things to pay attention to are the nose, muzzle and ears. Wild cats tend towards more rounded ears, a broader noze and "heavier" muzzle, while house cats have more pointed ears, a small nose and a fairly petite muzzle. There are obviously variations depending on the exact species you're going for, but those are the big differences that I think help a lot when building domestic versus wild cats.

I'm working on a suit of both a leopard and a house cat, here's the foam work I've done for each - not perfect, maybe it will help you a bit:

Housecat:


Leopard:
22nd-Apr-2009 05:05 pm (UTC)
Thanks it really help to see them as unfurred heads.
22nd-Apr-2009 04:55 pm (UTC)




Their noses are not as long and their muzzles aren't as thick. :3





And here.. have some side views. :3



22nd-Apr-2009 05:06 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the pictures they'll help me a lot. Fiding pictures of ats is one thing but finding good pictures is another thing completyly.
22nd-Apr-2009 04:58 pm (UTC)
i feel your pain hardcore, im trying to do the same thing... i spent some time (like 4 hrs a day for the past few weeks) trying to find a decent representation of a realistic cat, and i found a few...look up davin on the fursuit database, thats probably my favorite, even though hes a caracal...
22nd-Apr-2009 05:01 pm (UTC)
Google is your friend. Look at the real things. There are scale and proportion issues. In large part the width of the nose and the size and placement of the eyes. If you look at black cats and compare them with black leopards you will see what I mean.
22nd-Apr-2009 05:14 pm (UTC)
It would help by narrowing the breed or breed location of what is a 'normal' cat. European Domestic cats have a different facial structure to American so 'domestic short hair' does have variety of looks.

Typically domestic cats have shorter muzzles, larger eyes, larger triangle ears that are located more on the top of their heads as bigger cats is more to the sides.
If you look at the skull structures domestic cats have more elegant rounded muzzle that flows off the face and does not have as dramatic of a stop as compared to a big cats muzzles.
22nd-Apr-2009 05:32 pm (UTC)
It would help by narrowing the breed or breed location of what is a 'normal' cat.

This.

Every breed is a bit different (Persian are incredibly different vs orientals) and every 'wild cat' species is also different.

A cougar looks somewhat like a house cat in facial structure but a lion is *totally* different from most other wild cats and looks like nothing except another lion. An african wildcat is the closest wild relative to domestic housecats.
22nd-Apr-2009 05:27 pm (UTC)


Big cats have bulkier, flatter muzzles. Housecats have a shorter, finer structure, one that fursuit makers seem to have a difficult time replicating (and I can see why!). Others have posted IRL photos, so...

Here are a couple of examples from one maker, to see how she handles it:
Domestic: Side - http://www.cosplay.com/photo/1996496/
Front - http://qarrezel.deviantart.com/art/Mr-Cat-119271867 (and http://www.cosplay.com/photo/1996500/ )

Big Cats: http://www.cosplay.com/photo/1996500/
http://qarrezel.deviantart.com/art/White-Tiger-72525453
22nd-Apr-2009 06:26 pm (UTC)
The domestic cat unfurred: http://www.clockworkcreature.com/maskswitheyes.jpg
(Second to last, right side)
22nd-Apr-2009 09:51 pm (UTC)
WOW, those are awesome! What DO you make the heads out of?
I'd love to see a larger pic of this to see those eyes, etc.

-J
22nd-Apr-2009 10:27 pm (UTC)
Ooh, I didn't make them, Qarrezel did. :) She runs Clockwork Creature studio. She has the beginnings of a tutorial up:
http://qarrezel.deviantart.com/gallery/#Tutorials
22nd-Apr-2009 10:30 pm (UTC)
Huh, oddly it doesn't seem like the tutorial is there anymore! Sorry D:
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